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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150940452" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150940452">(Dec 05 2018 at 16:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>FYI <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="491">@WG-compiler-nll</span>, im not 100% sure I’ll be available to run tonight’s meett</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150940576" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150940576">(Dec 05 2018 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Will try; but I’ll be on single parent duty at the time so it depends on collective sleep schedules of three children</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150957667" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150957667">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>here's a ping to <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="491">@WG-compiler-nll</span> ; I'm <em>hoping</em> to be able to run the meeting (though my 2.5 year old has not yet fallen asleep, so its up in the air still...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150957708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150957708">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>but, yeah, the meeting is in ~9 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958494" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958494">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay so lets see how this goes (i've got a bassinet right by my knees)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958501" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958501">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>hi <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958509">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>as usual the triage paper is <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be">here</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958537" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958537">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>so one thing I wanted to try to address in today's meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958590" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958590">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>is that some time ago I put up some "Triage links" in that document</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958621" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958621">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>But the links as they were originally designed went stale; they were e.g. referecning the 2018 milestone, which is no longer something that is dictating our work flow</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958695">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I tried to update those links today (I literally just now made yet another change to them)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958747" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958747">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I noticed that at some point, I assume while I was on leave, we added an <code>NLL-priority</code> label?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958766" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958766">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>do we actually <em>need</em> such a label? Why didn't we use the combination of <code>A-NLL</code> + <code>P-high</code> to mean that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958818" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958818">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway I put up two separate links (for the P-high list and the NLL-priority list), because I don't know how to say "label:P-high OR label:NLL-priority" in the github issue search box.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958928">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Anyway the good news is that we don't have any unassigned P-high nor NLL-priority issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958936" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958936">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>so either we're doing great at assigning work, or badly at finding work to do.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958945">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I did nominate <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/42574" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/42574">#42574</a> for discussion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150958959" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150958959">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>because I wanted to figure out how we should tag it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959044" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959044">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I know a number of you have clamored for the improved diagnostics from NLL's region inference and bemoaned the fact that migration mode hides those improvements)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959080" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959080">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Figuring out how we are going to label (i.e. categorize) bugs like this seems like an important part of the story for how we're going to motivate ditching the migration mode.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959155" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959155">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>If people have thoughts on how we should keep track of such things, I'm all ears. (Maybe its just a matter of treating it like all the other NLL-fixed-by-NLL bugs; which are supposed to stay open until NLL is the default in all editions)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959239" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959239">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> regarding the gist you wrote on 2PB -- do you think that could be a path forward towards actually documenting them?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959261" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959261">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>(there's an issue somewhere that basically says "we need to document these darn things")</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959325" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959325">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do want to get good NLL documentation for the Reference done at some point, but it's quite tiring writing it up.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959404" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959404">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah doing docs well is hard</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959406" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959406">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and often thankless)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959424" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959424">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess also rustc-guide docs as well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959505" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> blitzerr <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959505">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm.... People are definitely appreciate of good docs, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span>  do you mean they are not vocally appreciative about it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959558" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959558">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, and it's hard not to want to create rustc PRs after documenting the edge cases of many things.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959602">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
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<p>If people have thoughts on how we should keep track of such things, I'm all ears. (Maybe its just a matter of treating it like all the other NLL-fixed-by-NLL bugs; which are supposed to stay open until NLL is the default in all editions)</p>
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<p>I think that just marking it with NLL-fixed-by-NLL or NLL-diagnostics is the way to go here.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959673" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959673">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="128294">@blitzerr</span> I just think that sometimes the effort expended "doing it right" is not actually visible to the end audience.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959691" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959691">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Consider the old adage about "forgive me for the length of this letter; I had not time to make it shorter")</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959715" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959715">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>Okay anyway did anyone else want to discuss anything? <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> , if I can tie off <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/56537" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/56537">#56537</a> then I might be able to subsequently help you look at the fails in PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/55937" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/55937">#55937</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959720" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959720">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>... until NLL is the default in all editions</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Do we still want to move to migrate on all editions for 1.33?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959730" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959730">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>is that the timeline? I have no idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959792" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959792">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oooh, 1.33, that's exciting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959797" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959797">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I figured we would at least have to see what the feedback is once the edition is out.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959805" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959805">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Okay anyway did anyone else want to discuss anything? <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> , if I can tie off <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/56537" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/56537">#56537</a> then I might be able to subsequently help you look at the fails in PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/55937" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/55937">#55937</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>That'd be great.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959808">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm guessing the feedback coming real soon with the edition will be key in deciding the timeline ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959824" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959824">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> exactly what I was thinking</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959825" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959825">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>The last time it was discussed, I think we were hoping to move to migrate on 2015 in 1.33, so that we had some edition feedback time.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959863" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959863">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do we think that any currently open issues would block it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959868" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959868">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it would make sense to maybe hope for the best, i.e. assume that everyone loves NLL and is clamoring for it to be turned on across the board</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959879" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959879">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>also interesting wrt to when to switch off of migrate mode</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959880" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959880">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>and thus make our internal plans based on that best case scenario, in terms of how fast we should move</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959886" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959886">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>which I guess is what then yields the 1.33 target version</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959935" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959935">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:54)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Do we think that any currently open issues would block it?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>this is a good Q</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959966" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959966">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can't imagine that there are issues that wouldn't block NLL in 2018 but would in 2015?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150959973" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150959973">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>for turning on migrate mode in all editions, I would imagine we would probably only consider NLL-sound issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960010" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960010">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are still 8 open issues there: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AA-NLL+label%3ANLL-sound" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AA-NLL+label%3ANLL-sound">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AA-NLL+label%3ANLL-sound</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960020" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960020">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>though ... let me go untag that from <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54528" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54528">#54528</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960092">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3ANLL-complete" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3ANLL-complete">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3ANLL-complete</a> ? Most don't seem to be that important, as they're not regressions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960120" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960120">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>the reason I'm skipping NLL-complete is that migrate mode means we can lower their priority</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960129" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960129">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>The NLL-complete issues should block turning off migrate mode</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960137" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960137">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think we have a target date for that yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960197" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960197">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>(though, as you point out, the set of NLL-complete issues is indeed quite ... short ... seems ... too short ...?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960199" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960199">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51915" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51915">#51915</a> is the only "regression" that's marked NLL-complete</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960216" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960216">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, a lot got moved to <code>NLL-polonius</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960228" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960228">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>does "turning off migrate mode" imply "delete old AST borrowck"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960247" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960247">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> I'd say that turning off migrate mode is certainly a prereq for deleting the old AST borrowck</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960249" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960249">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>(or at least unlock it)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960251" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960251">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960271" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960271">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Cause I bet that some contributors here would be very excited for that job ;-)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960272" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960272">(Dec 05 2018 at 20:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>All the things I want to remove...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960287" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960287">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's not as easy as it sounds though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960357">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay well that's 30 min</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960366">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm think more <span class="emoji emoji-1f52a" title="knife">:knife:</span>  <span class="emoji emoji-1f600" title="grinning">:grinning:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960368" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960368">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I think I covered everything <em>I</em> wanted to...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960430" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Keith Yeung <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960430">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>should we now turn our focus to <span class="emoji emoji-1f438" title="frog">:frog:</span>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960439" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960439">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, some people already have</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960507" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960507">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>s/turn our focus/leap on over to/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960514" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960514">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>niko has done exciting things lately for polonius :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960515" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960515">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that it's definitely something that should be back to active development.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960591" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960591">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm also assuming there would some edition related feedback and NLL work soon, instead of completely switching over to polonius ofc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960647" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Keith Yeung <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960647">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, thursday is gonna be a big day</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960658" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Keith Yeung <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960658">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is... 2 days from now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960660" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Keith Yeung <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960660">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>no, tomorrow</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960714" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960714">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that's all I wanted to discuss then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20December%205/near/150960801" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20December.205.html#150960801">(Dec 05 2018 at 21:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>then good evening / good afternoon everyone <span class="emoji emoji-1f44b" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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